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      About 4 monthes ago, I began my working life in this factory, yes, it is a factory, and we are working here,even though we are foreign trade sales person. Many of my friends asked me " why you are working in a factory? why do not you go to a foreign trade company or some factroies office which in the business zone." I said: for now, I do not want high salary, I just want the experience, maybe I can learn more if I work in a factory.
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      Hehe,problems are coming, what I learn from this factory are not up to my expectation, even less than those what I can learn from a trade company or else.....
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      Why I have such kind of view? Below are the reasons:forum.fobshanghai.com8O(y(M k;d-C-c"r
      1) Our manager, to be more accuracy,  our sales manager had done many bad things on me, he thought I was a new member in this factory, so, had done some thing which are discrimination on me. For example, called other colleagues (who were in the same department) went to have dinner or had a meeting, but except me. Just I was a new member, but he did not know, after doing that, how other members would think about thies case?  business forum,trade forum,business opportunity,Business China,Business India,Brazil business&G6j!C/Z6j2^,d/d
          But I am not a craven, I have done something let him be ashamed. What I did? Get more orders !! Now, everyone knows who he is, to be honest, no one have good impression of him.....
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;X'w)q'U0\;aforum.fobshanghai.com          Speaking of the factory, there are more problems, such as: delivery, quality, price, management, accommodation.... Oh, I can not stop now...hehe..
l3B5\5Q-T"{;y&[#R&j"Aforum.fobshanghai.com          All above problems are what I am experiencing now or experienced before, We alway can not delivery the goods on time due to the quality, because I should keep my promise that the quality of goods should be up to their requirements.But you know, the production department can not provide me with the right products, then I ask them to do it again, the result is I can not delivery the goods on time...business forum,trade forum,business opportunity,Business China,Business India,Brazil business2J6h+^7j"s-{"U(d
         Price is one of the most problem that we can not get big order, every one knows that more quantity get lower price, but it seems that more quantity get higher price in our factory, hehe..maybe you do not believe me. OK, there is another expample, one of my clients let me give him a quotation, one quantity is 200 000pcs, one is 1 000 000pcs, do you know what the price is? SAME !!! All the quotation we got are from our factory director, but he give us this quotation, no orders will be placed even to me, how to say the customer. No fool is doing business !
/k%P.h;J"p:M4P2jFOB Business Forum        Ok, management? No more words to describe it, just want to say one thing, that is many workers fire this factory, not be fired by this factory..hehe... Also, what I eat in this factory is the food make me feel tired and lose energy every day............ Do you know what the food is? Radish and cuke... similar to these two kinds. That is what we have had in factory.
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      Ok...Above are just what I have been  experiencing in my first job as a international business man. And the factory is located in Dongguan Guangdong province......................... Developed city...................
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      Thank you for your ideas !!!!
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i have ever worked in the factory

Ok...maybe I am a little bit disappointing you, but it is the truth what I have been experiencing,...
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but what did you do later?? Any advises to me?

I like your attitude for the job:
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yes...at that time... I do think the factory has more things we can learnt from...
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just go to your factory and learn the productions of the products so that you can have a better understanding of the products which will be helpful in your future development
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and if you can't understand your products very well and the customers won't be easy to do business with you for they think you are not proffessional
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good luck to you

It is very nice of you to say so,Jerry.
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Good idea...
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(t6r+]+n)k @But fortunately, my clients always call me nice man. Because I always work over time for them.. They know what time it is in our end...So, I do my best to understand what they need actually and offer them the best kindness service to them...
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Maybe that is the main reason for me to get order...
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Try to be professional in your products field and insist on that business for some years to make you a specialist.

i worked in  a factory too ,and the problems you described exists for sure ,i experienced and felt a lot.
4U(Z"}0G6j6\forum.fobshanghai.com1.the boss ----nearly all bosses know little about int'l business cause they received less education.  In  other words , they say /do something without considering even don't care . What i dealt with was doing quietly with saying nothing . After all , they are boss while  i am an underling  .
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4w4^6V/T#Z9EFOB Business Forum2.the factory or company----hundreds of companies are informal especially the private enterprise .Big problem exists in the company of our country, for example , the system is out of order and so on and so forth . we can do nothing but obey ......FOB Business Forum2j+l9g9b(c!p+P

5\9I!|'W%w#^/e4|business forum,trade forum,business opportunity,Business China,Business India,Brazil business3.management----this is really a serious topic . a good company own  bright & healthly management . everybody got his own thoughts to manage his company . i learnt from a speecher last week and his speech is fantastic , maybe i'll share with you later .[A Professional Business Forum]*?;z*_1^;p3v

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maybe we understand the  boss ,the mangement,the phenomenon --- all of these when we  become older  .
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2. for the reason u explain first, we may have the same experience, cos we are greenhand, we cannot bring high profit to the company now, how could we complain more. so sometimes, keep silent is not a bad idea. if the profit we brings takes up 50% of the total profit, i think we can almost ask for better condition. learning to bear some unfair happened, that is also a skill in human beings. ^^ interest ,profit can prove everything. so donot take that serious.evry dog has his day.7j;V8w0G+l/z

._#B k0{/X9NFOB Business Forum3. good, u have found the problems, but now u donot have the ability to change the bad condition. learn from it, if u were in their position, what u could do to make some improvement. explain what the problem lies and think are there some solutions to them?
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(m0P9i8r6R1L;^0s"I jbusiness forum,trade forum,business opportunity,Business China,Business India,Brazil business4.why why your factory cannot detain talents working for him? management is skill. want to be a good leader, it is not an easy task. get to  learn something, buddy, good luck. ^^forum.fobshanghai.com;?(c0},W7x6u4K
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5. more thing to be mentioned, factories in Guangdong, most of them are not in good condition. ^^. they work more days than asked. one thing i admire u is that u'd like to work overtime. but i would never like to work during weekend.
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discover the potential hiden in yourself, it is a good chance to make progress in the first few years when we still have enthusiasm. These days, I learnt a lot from a guy, he taught me a lot on working and help me a lot. so these things are to be shared here. hope it will have some effect. ^^
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    Thanks for your sharing your experience and supporting me.forum.fobshanghai.com"o8m(x2v+]-s4@/S

$R!E7q!e,b*p4K6DFOB Business Forum     You are right there, as you said,"maybe we understand the  boss ,the mangement,the phenomenon --- all of these when we  become older  ." This is a social problem....every body will experience when it is his/her first time to work. ...
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6A%L.a,c5P,o9S7A(_3ebusiness forum,trade forum,business opportunity,Business China,Business India,Brazil business    Actually, althought I can not change any hidebound stipulation here, I can learn what problems this factory has got and avoid same problems in my future business when I am a manager or a boss
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8w0|-h-{*b1g;Lforum.fobshanghai.comHi, Rita
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2G q(|0f3Gbusiness forum,trade forum,business opportunity,Business China,Business India,Brazil business    What you said in you note has let me learn much.... yes, your points are very good and have excelent effect in keeping my mood being equable...
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3l8v6Y1p6l!w&?/`FOB Business Forum     As you mentioned, we can not complain more since we can not bring big profit to the company right now.... What we can do at the moment is to work harder and get more orders as well as keeping everything being silent... ( cause our sales manager can not accept opposite suggestion, very envious..)
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#|!f0T5w/b"p    Thanks million to all !!!

welcome to be one of our members.ha .i actually have the same complaint as yours.
4c1b8t0V+X;o*@FOB Business Forumfactory is the same everywhere,i think....so hard to live .i am in the same boat with you,
3k7~8B1x!B:`+N8e9wnow i am trying to find a company next year...