FOB Business Forum » Business Talk » China Business » Connect with the chief editor of World Trade Managzine
Apply free email: @FOBMumbai.com

2005-11-17 10:08 vip
Connect with the chief editor of World Trade Managzine

Thanks for writing.2G&^#Qj3C+n
I look forward to cooperating with you.
7_:E|zw1m 4o6d$`}xM _ },}9G
We are currently preparing an article about China which is described;p0K De%]!B5P(Y,n6O
below:
gvW/g5~VY j1i 3PL/LOGISTICS:  b8V*cYv"[
TRADING WITH CHINA: A 'HOW TO GUIDE' FOR SMALLER SHIPPERSD|,}3I%b(B!J\

*}(O0O9B"aW8~Z @:F B China may be where the action is, but for a smaller company the
RD_(@4`@n1f prospects of stretching your supply chain all the way to Asia
bhD(~!CVWL J understandably sounds intimidating.  In this special section, World
4|%E#Z`#PoS#f"o Trade examines the 'nuts and bolts' of setting up shop in China.  The6d(@2W*R0d
who/what/how of establishing a Chinese presence.eHX.c'R8fn

sR3Gkz+?j8Z Zq(u Would you be able to write a brief article for this section aboutZFMD)P2R0MZj o
"Experts in Shanghai" who can help U.S. traders find sources/markets in
q/s1ge h&yB/u China?  0GEU%L@ ``
We would need your article in 7 days.v G-n9N)Kh/JH9P0C
Please advise me of your availability.
r5vT^bmB+cz (W]Ym/t4A&|N x m
Thanks,/eA.E'K!|4S
Neil
M6} eor|)W;y&o
#P wG;@4j{x -----Original Message-----eh{9^ g`H(v#dDla
From: fobshanghai.com
Z,D h\9s0r Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 9:07 AMf4V:z _{ELH]
To: Shister, NeilfVgUYPf3L,X\` b
Subject: a letter from FOBShanghai
UeoXWUW uM:I5K aX PnFef
Dear Mr. Shister,
l6z tX"l;`y
F Bjav4C Sorry to disturb you, through your blog, I know you are chief editor for$x9z u'\x7n.?
world trade managzine.
.o*Q*x;Rf(~
F0WD{Tj~ I am writing email to you, just want to check if we have any chance to
:Zb6P8R(B/B7P8jjQ cooperate.b:t9k#i PE
[e,oHKE4t*u
Firstly, I would like to introduce [url]http://BBS.FOBShanghai.com[/url] to you, a9{5M6LE c$t
famouse foreign trade forum in China. As you known, China becomes a main
`;Qg\z exporting country in the world, many young mans join in this industry.
9liLj`!lN|(x dsK!|9xP"R L
Everyday, there are many stories, record their step in foreign trade,
:U?0G%E-_/E acyually they stand for China exporters.LN3u b5E-R
!rO({SqrK
As a manager of this forum, I would like get more oversea traders can
nd3^iQ+C join in us, communicate with us directly. It's difficult to find aN&w2o}M\.W`
success forum on foreign trading in English. W]%K'Xs

+V7mHa+v)HQ I write email to you, hope we can cooperate as belows:3v`#O ?N%z
$s1l-?kp4h8[
1. Change the AD, we promote your free managzine in China through our9{7w;U"Y|
forum.
.m/^2y/S7v 2. Your managzine and your website promote our forum to oversea market/H!}^B[!M%|D2V
3. You can get the sources for China trader story through my forum.{Hn({_
4. Depends on your great ideaY&O*W6V}.ed:C
&{2b f*Qf0?v[
RegardsSx)SK*^-w3A
Rl'j q8n
FobShanghai.com

2005-11-17 19:53 rainie4420
Would you be able to write a brief article for this section about*H"DYr f\
"[color=Red]Experts in Shanghai[/color]" who can help U.S. traders find sources/markets in\eo6U0m(x O/Nb
China?
oyD9w _)B1cr 6X$m)e8o+e%mr
Would u mind us from  the other provinces  being allowed to write this article?*[_j!A(q{%j
GC'DSYY;l@
[[i] Last edited by rainie4420 at 2005-11-17 07:55 [/i]]

2005-11-17 21:38 sexdevil
Dear Neil
Mtt"W!P6lF
$B N X;v1Q)?(W My pleasure to meet you.h N Nw V y.Zs

S$A B&n"\'H:|:z0v*c This is Joe Lau from China Shenzhen.initially I ain't experts but also I can give you some hints in sourcing China.
:o)Vh_@FZ(`
+X5O&Gzi0mek As the world spreading China is the most potential market in this world and no doubt there are mass chances of business oppotunities for your local traders,whatever retailers,wholesalers,shop owners,distributers etc.in nowadays we have made great advance in the business relations between U.S. and China.as a Chinese I want to explane the easy ways to do business from China.
5VUx3I^!x
CD6^"iI,r Every buyer want to do foreign trading,he needs to know the cost,shipping charge,production time,delivery time,sample availability,certificate,production capacity and so on.and when you contact one Chinese manufacturer(I mean you want to import from it).
ENDu? 5}&k;n9Q~1grM8i
1,You are not only have to know the FOB price but also the shipping charge,no worries about the price of shipping because China have large quantities of forwarders.and the price is rather competitive in your company.so when you require a price of the product please do not hesitate to let your business friend to quote you including shipping.
+z _@0BA/r
1\o~:n Q.z 2,If you have your local client,so you can inquire your biz pal for all photos to attract your customer or make catalogues,in this EC period you can almost get everything useful details at computer.and you can add the shipping period along with production time for your delivery time.
*J6L"yc k hW[4iiP c2YTr
3,For payment,you cam also receive the amount of your client,then T/T the deposit for small orders.and sometimes Chinese manufacturer will insist receiving balance before delivery for small orders,as a matter of fact you can ask your biz pal to take all pictures of your finished products,and after one business all Chinese factories will trust you for sure.
G3@)N WBK;Hv,o ;d*_ w,G4Za
4,For MOQ that will depend on the CBM,every foreign trader know the CBM is very useful for the LCL shipping.in that case you can let your pal to quote you one price USD/cbm,then you can confirm the order quantity to him.that he will calculate CBM for the final price.that will be very useful to you.and yout decision of the MOQ will be made.(just for LCL and big volume goods)
M1Q of_ n+]rLD
5V7j:Db^s1s9kR e 5,sample.every Chinese will insist free sample with freight collect,do not be doubtful about their sincerity.because all procedures are just to justify if you are a real buyer.so if you really want to do business,do not hesitate to pay the freight charge.and you can imagine,China is the one of the largest market in the world.how many demands of sample requirement will be received per day.
y h#gc,?"_
F R.kg+A~ S:p Many factories are requiring deposit because they are worried about the risk.as a matter of fact many factories do not have the capavility to endure the money advanced for you.and for trading companies they will pay in advance for your goods because without receiving the balance the factory will not despatch the goods.
M \ p9c.J
)~o6P j*@I Z Also there are many good B2B sites as [url]www.made-in-china.com[/url],[url]www.tradebig.com[/url],[url]www.alibaba.com[/url],you can also post the enquiry that will easily received by all vendors.
;g P^.MU4Mg$XjSF
%es/wY1V x$Sbx@#rk Here I list a sample order communication done in 3 hours with an Italian client on Alibaba trade messenger yesterday for your reference,many steps I concerned as above:
h2gu{*u:QVV b
oTQ hW Joe Lau(16:33:08): hellou8R%?m5\ ZZ8{
Joe Lau(16:33:11): ciao
f(cQ+Fk,_oA%^\ aleser(16:33:15): ciao
F9P.pg9z"FRF(Y1}:w Joe Lau(16:33:35): I am Joe~o b|,Wpn/{ F
aleser(16:33:44): I'm alessandro
KDtF([ a!k Joe Lau(16:33:48): yesterday I have received your enquiry.]/uVXi1TW
aleser(16:33:48): nice tomeet you
B#xoq#f WFAz]{6Y aleser(16:33:53): yes
Ux2uhN k,F Joe Lau(16:33:55): yes ,nice to know you
UKHQf A+@V aleser(16:34:24): Is possible to have your price list??/Wl-WL(@%R
Joe Lau(16:34:35): as you required information ,may I have you r mail address which can accept large size pictures-}j?%cb,e}:_I"c@(E
Joe Lau(16:34:53): of course,that you have learned the luxury material we have wYW-yLv'X
Joe Lau(16:35:12): yes are you distributing those classics at italian mart
4}A"gDCH {GZ aleser(16:35:39): yes i hope to open a new company for distibute this product $|5l7k0M,}.r)@,N*| k
aleser(16:35:58): in a few daybW2W},S El
Joe Lau(16:36:05): very nice,so it is possible to buy some samples for your showroom,right?!fI V7[7_I%[4b
aleser(16:36:25): I haven't a showroom*~T{^o5DPW
Joe Lau(16:36:38): wonderful news because nowadays we have not a italian client for those classicsB([V\)^
Joe Lau(16:36:58): Oh
B[(f2X1te-da6q aleser(16:37:18): I want to reselle this product in a store in italy8|0Ai.\]uA8z
Joe Lau(16:37:32): however can you give me your mail address that I will send you the picture that I have just taken from my Belgium order
0k QVyf5e#pZ Joe Lau(16:37:41): of course with the price
{+lql~H aleser(16:37:53): you have a belgium costumer
B sI O[j Joe Lau(16:38:00): yes8p U:z1| p
aleser(16:38:23): in this moments i need low price can i buy from your costumer1vaDso4Ea8P4b9i
Joe Lau(16:39:06): Oh he just have a sample room to sell to his local mart
0cR9O~WEqU-B aleser(16:39:26): ok
6r/I$p/I0kD Joe Lau(16:39:27): I cannot release his contact info because he have told me to keep
lI.zqb2l6k aleser(16:40:00): ok:xbT c-TH&|Q5g.~o
aleser(16:40:12): my e-mail address isl;T,Mi6Zr'Zn4C3@
aleser(16:40:18): [email][/email]
tM X%WN^ wex Joe Lau(16:40:26): may I know your project,that I am also interested to help you with your mart.to attract your customer
xF,g/Uz4o4\"}*} Joe Lau(16:40:32): thank you vey ,uch[%x Uh)MIN:L
Joe Lau(16:40:38): I will send you all infos right now
#^zoh)O0ey.o]*H aleser(16:40:47): thank you7x+M:C O2vf:kd)i
aleser(16:41:26): if your price is very interesting and the shipment cost are not expensive i buy from you
5FX]{-`r#p9dVil J Joe Lau(16:41:47): before I quote,can I know how many approx you will order for initially
X{|t7k_^%m~ Joe Lau(16:42:01): that 's why I ask if you have a showroom or warehouse
nMX#_M&X~/F Joe Lau(16:42:31): and as I told you we only sell in good material and quality."p/rl:}S2U BX`F
Joe Lau(16:42:52): all material can bear 5 years warranty
Cn}s+u*} aleser(16:44:02): I thing to sell only in catalog, after i order you items. In this moments this articles is very glamour in italy, and i thing is very business sell that
7cX XJfG*ReX Joe Lau(16:44:28): great
N5v%O rR)g FTm$r Joe Lau(16:44:41): and those pictures can help you to do a catalog^N ^Le"p"SP
aleser(16:44:52): yes
1Ug0zD:W aleser(16:45:02): thanks8jBJ1^m+Q,Y
aleser(16:45:33): my problem is the cost of shipping, becouse, I thing very expensive.8y&` s(p-[#@s
Joe Lau(16:45:43): I will quote you our bottom price that based on 40'ft.
3z+H$Q8n%y;b Joe Lau(16:45:56): which port is the nearest~(ld.KPu6Z
aleser(16:46:13): catania (my city) or naples
q,|"n7x~ Joe Lau(16:46:36): do not worry about shipping we have the cheapest shipping charge in China!D(y}jNT+~2p
aleser(16:46:47): ok good
qM \)ry(Hj Joe Lau(16:47:12): if you can confirm the order quantity we will calculate the shipping charge to you.that based on CBM`4h:@TpE!`K
Joe Lau(16:47:25): for example.d5Tc4DL N7D
Joe Lau(16:47:49): Now I will ask my forwarder for the charge to Naples
8p?$L;\k| CK Joe Lau(16:48:08): which port is convenience for you,may I help you ? V.a"WS yQ] sp]w5j
Joe Lau(16:48:21): catania?2y%r n7J e7kK+G
aleser(16:48:28): catania becouse is my city
0mftxoX#L fC Joe Lau(16:49:18): currently our barcelona chair set is USD350./set
9B&T)N1pD s t9|K Joe Lau(16:49:25): the CBM is 0.55
k@Ot&sPt aleser(16:51:04): whats CBM
{Ja%]:u:B{ aleser(16:51:32): EXAMPLE I THING TO ORDER YOU 5 BARCELONA
RW"E^Q#B"F!c Joe Lau(16:52:00): if you order 5 barcelona chairs,the cbm will be 5.5,so the charge will be
1w^F:V#[@7Q8] Joe Lau(16:52:05): shipping charge
~JU+y/f9MTIo+^*x Joe Lau(16:52:36): wait ,the forwarder is online,he will inform me the charge,,but he have told me maybe no ship to Catania,Naples is ok?
%L0Zl!B/w B!?gi aleser(16:52:47): OK
9`eq'`YW Joe Lau(16:55:55): the price is USD90/cbm%X_h0{C$V5s6K
Joe Lau(16:56:08): if you order 5 barcelona chairsMl9n#IJH
aleser(16:56:29): WHI CBM FOR 5 BARCELONA IS 5,5 IF FOR 1 BARCELONA IS 0.55?
|)|:y/\h%Mai/_ }J/V"M:q Joe Lau(16:56:35): the CBM will be 5.5,that means 495 shipping charge,
/^ IR!C0e3Fb"u"g Joe Lau(16:56:45): oh no,that means 10 barcelona chair sets
nf/eT RreEKj Joe Lau(16:57:02): cbm means cubic meter in internation shipping
@d5vEL0ze}h Joe Lau(16:57:13): cbm means the packing size
p*i(]4X*x q Joe Lau(16:58:10): Oh,usd1100 for 20'ft means 28cbm,that means 50barcelona chair sets.0V:T:U6zj3S6m/@-U
aleser(16:58:44): USD90/CBM IS FOR 5 OR 10 BARCELONA8r9P4CH2_;H`4B0u
Joe Lau(16:59:08): USD90/cbm for China Shenzhen to Naples.
1W0@JQ6V Joe Lau(16:59:57): 5 barcelona means 3cbm,that is just USD270 for 5 barcelona chair,clear:LK-lM5|Cs
aleser(17:00:19): OK
9G5Q4hvr)N JQ f"PL-Y!X aleser(17:00:21): CLEAR
!|O"].Xn}!f Joe Lau(17:00:42): very cheap in China~ S!KD&z
Joe Lau(17:00:51): if you order a container will be more cheap
b,?{.mx'nDD.BF } Joe Lau(17:01:02): and 23 days for the shipping period
-GR_bD$? aleser(17:01:19): RIGHT PRICE FOR 5 BARCELONA IS 2020 USD
n| iY w9D'cK Joe Lau(17:01:40): right &{ r@;ye5k}
aleser(17:01:47): OK
*A2[*b1d/m'u.uJZ Joe Lau(17:02:51): that also include the DDC,means you are not gonna pay the charge at your custom
%lZmEb aleser(17:03:20): ???
:cg)[&Qk Joe Lau(17:03:49): I am sending you the price and pics.you can take a look at our pictures then give me some comments |&JB}1A
aleser(17:04:16): OK
:Am|0i4V1F y_ `S Joe Lau(17:04:27): DDC mean destination port charge
4[sH6A$zq?j aleser(17:04:46): RIGHT|*?%`8uD$H?_
aleser(17:04:49): CLEARyzG(\b K+Kb
Joe Lau(17:04:55): destination dock charge
V"G |u*Wl Joe Lau(17:04:59): hehe...Ok)y6kyG ^7?bF
aleser(17:05:04): YESv"}7wW;[YMNbK
aleser(17:05:08): VERY GOOD$R[d'dxp7x
aleser(17:05:37): HAVE YOU ANOTHER TYPE OF BARCELONA NOT EXPENSIVE +i+{ n/d u X,Ul*B
Joe Lau(17:05:48): and if you order one container it will be around USD1000 for the 20'ft
d? Au#NI8d Joe Lau(17:06:04): no ,the #202 will rust and pvc will tear part
/^}1Y4G6i2ju&U Joe Lau(17:06:18): quality will be very dangerous for classics items
/K|o:i._V%f Joe Lau(17:07:18): PVC warranty will be 6 months,I can easily tear it as paper.and for the frame,#304 stainless steel will not rust,and it is a mirror shine surface
3Ea$r.?b2M wo_J aleser(17:07:36): OK5D%u2j}?|a6z Z!T4U
Joe Lau(17:08:04): surely it will attract your customer,we are the best supplier in China.
%V3b/C0G+z%u/F Joe Lau(17:10:04): I will give you a better quotes for all items
GHh6[5T4y5jP aleser(17:10:15): OK
[HH X/~D;lq;ZOT^ aleser(17:10:23): THANKSQA+v3o J9y4}g
Joe Lau(17:10:26): that the Belgium client have bought it in usd360HB9KG.N
Joe Lau(17:11:23): but you must help me to earn money from our products.your success will make us success.
9|$T e8@+t{-[Q aleser(17:12:07): IN ANOTHER SUPPLIER THE BARCELONA CHAIR IS 187USD` F(]K.Fg)l'g
Joe Lau(17:12:26): chair set?
(U.tP vs!k Joe Lau(17:12:30): what material?
_q2WZi#|/Q] Joe Lau(17:13:24): I can offer usd120 for chrome plated and pvc,but the rubbish will not live for 1 year.
`H/J1@Q,E Joe Lau(17:13:48): take a look at the pics,then you can get information
'J]0~Ts.B8} D aleser(17:14:14): USD120?????
b:dXx O#|%}8Z Joe Lau(17:16:33): wait,I will take a pic of that barcelona chair.it is the worst in China,
-C,Tt;Vl.HI Joe Lau(17:21:13): yes,pvc and chrome plated one,w h,Yq8_1lI7z}~
Joe Lau(17:21:21): I have attached on the photo
h'mcs7s3l)?t aleser(17:21:27): ok
%W*S+Fl%}1k4@ aleser(17:21:38): but the cost of this is 120 usd
U I1m+iL8Ca9g Joe Lau(17:21:52): yes
4t3S!h|@-a\ Joe Lau(17:21:55): just one chair`6H.X%N@?$X|m
Joe Lau(17:21:59): no ottoman
,P7pwS`? aleser(17:22:02): ok?c"] p e*b,}
aleser(17:22:15): have you send the email?$lr ^m/d2O.m
Joe Lau(17:22:58): yes.!\'W j%k2V5l"{
Joe Lau(17:23:12): it will take time becaus I have attached many photos'r0@5G*`nP I4t
aleser: okT.h} G V!@Msl
aleser: the shipping cost are the same?%w])P-lT@
Joe Lau: to be honest,that usd120 fake barcelona chair will not have market in your country,you know the best barcelona manufacturer are in your country['z]YzaI&x?p
Joe Lau: you italian are the best vendor of classics in the world.$Vz.pv_WW
Joe Lau: yes ,shipping cost is the sameOg5jd _qV2]
Joe Lau: from Shenzhen to naplesNR rDkAyW
aleser: ok:D%q;TS0LwH&{
Joe Lau: usd90/cbm
w1Yb#q"@:a-y&E aleser: goodsF,O"g[6x
Joe Lau: very goodO!k8Z-PHE
Joe Lau: you can check the mailR7`(tM9L
Joe Lau: maybe it is arrived$xN qM,X
aleser: your cost of cbm is very competitive I ^6e0y{l R@
Joe Lau: that is true}&A2|)x9a/N#t/r%H]*_
aleser: and the payments terms?
@$_)n3|Y aleser: is not arrived nowk)u6ncS)nU1jO B
Joe Lau: 30% deposit and 70% before delivery with finished products and copy of B/Lf?Y|[4HL4n
Joe Lau: 100% t/t for sample order1vL AuB9Y2oc9F
Joe Lau: very common way at internation trade
"\jx$|(Uf@&u aleser: okHG&X*^[*R
Joe Lau: you use B/L to pick up the goods,you can handled before?I`C N6Z ClP2B)f
aleser: whatsdp*Ze-{
Joe Lau: that pick up the goods at port
1p6_1[aH.w aleser: explane me
f8|E'A'd~,Ck Joe Lau: a normal procedure%E#Sx j/O S3O
Joe Lau: you finish the balance,I delivery the goods to your port and send you the bill of lading,then you can use the bill of lading to pick up your goods at your port.
3b#}J)Y:UQ Joe Lau: clear
(H gIIZ$g_ aleser: clear
QYV*iyy%U;b aleser: ok
q^ Q_ U,FY1N-u8C Joe Lau: that is very safe because we can do our goods in good condition without risk,I have sent the goods to custom,then we cannot get them back,but we have a B/L,but it is not useful for us,I exchange that for your balance.you can pick up your goods safely/oQ9[Ge;C
aleser: ok
)[AE Y6F aleser: email don't arrive g{t'V;rJ ^l](D]
Joe Lau: email have 3.3m in capacity d.f*?H p
aleser: ok
b(]"K9{$w F6k)e(ON/W(D aleser: goodaT4K ^S W \h
Joe Lau: you can receive file with this messenger?
F;C2q{f"m\/F-G aleser: yes,zmVC'f1m-ImY
Joe Lau: Ok,.$x ~g3?E%Rc"\e
Joe Lau: I wil send all file in rar ?
x0t;B!}].jQD/[ aleser: this is usd350 or 120usd
4z#zHa _ fGP Joe Lau: 3500H @C Rki5]wFg;~
Joe Lau: you need 120? XxVz|Sb&_
aleser: 350 is with ottoman
)Z2W hCX(\3B8H Joe Lau: yes correct
*m/fG V }f5|,y5[*Tu5j aleser: yes send me file of 120usd
XL3R6WOe7b4B aleser: you can send by email in .zip 6\+W5k G1k"ar9} C OH#h
Joe Lau: rar
)NS3] zN2v Joe Lau: zip can unzip rar?a be~^CB2pP
Joe Lau: winzip can unzip winrar file with no doubt ,right?(V0L'hRV;_b
aleser: i try with rarwC b@z*]%ta
Joe Lau: under transferring
g%r&l0f~k {vh aleser: yes#{4I.E&p$H:O)aM|
aleser: give your email address8qu%q&]c~'K
Joe Lau: [email]info@[/email]I&{yf9YMJa2R
Joe Lau: I will transfer one by one
E0D(SW!m{ ?j/c aleser: OK
s,^Hh%N aleser: SEND|,|E5E.P!g`0e|rK
aleser: WORST ONE.JPG IS THE BARCELONA OF 120 USD????@$o/x_P7v(~
Joe Lau: yes*}H'`d:Db!H
Joe Lau: PVC with chrome plated structure,can be knockdown
0xU)Cd_x7ZLS"UD aleser: WHAT ARE THE COLOUR AVAILABLEH,Sa3}g VteF
Joe Lau: which one?O$y7_\h
Joe Lau: worst one?Q8~ L4VS1eC
aleser: ALL
~7B!n5pv)z6](t Joe Lau: wait
&Yjk7vIr*OF(d Joe Lau: available in all normal colors
ex4@+N]W aleser: AND THE MINIMUM ORDER???
O$[2W"hR Joe Lau: red/white/brown/yellow/dark red
N,~k5c;{ |4AI G aleser: OK VN8~1S+S+t
Joe Lau: but for saddle leather we may need to order in advance
'c1`Ro,jC,i Joe Lau: we currently just have them in black
KiO,GX3C S Joe Lau: saddle leather straps
+Kx9v6Q0zb aleser: OK
5wN?!tAjo2` aleser: THE MINIMUM ORDER???:[ kn.s3UTG Jf?

sOkU4w2p8e Joe Lau: at least 10 cbm
6tb|5B+QC Joe Lau: you can combine with the initial order
"{b3m[:l!]yr Joe Lau: because they are factory price
'R"h3Dlu| aleser: CAN YOU WRITE ME EXATLY PRICE FOR CBM AND SHIPPING PRICE TO NAPLES ANDSEND ME?
rA&HVXY*u aleser: i THING TO ORDER YOU
N,h\0N'{^$h Joe Lau: Ok
^{7C5nnnd|+K"GO(| aleser: I HAVE RECEIVED YOUR EMAIL
[nfNn|$S Joe Lau: yes
]EyB8?YCH Joe Lau: different right
6o&E5U`F Joe Lau: mail is a discount one based on 40'ft B g/r(FI$t/um
aleser: OKh"?x T%XK9^'[
aleser: in your quotation i don't see YD-CF007, YD-6101
J U9sHX|
/aK7@:z \%?1FN6u Joe Lau: which one
uY)]$Lv+Q4r9d ?u aleser: this items YD-CF007 AND YD-6101
3\#mB X5yH Joe Lau: you have seen at our website?
1U_Ik;m7I3d aleser: YES
:Tq1Iol2A0b1G Joe Lau: oh that one
b:u~N2R+[R Joe Lau: CF007 is under construction
!s!I W-hkFR&r"K ^ Joe Lau: will be done at 20*~7d,hu Jg+l
Joe Lau: during that time I will give you the quote
`l J!HY7mAZ aleser: OK
8\r ^n'b8{5CB Joe Lau: if you place sample order please refer to the quotation I attached in the messenger
Mjk6]N:@rFfj aleser: OKH(yV7@Hcd&G
Joe Lau: and you can note the cbm at every item in the excel form right?
8JP {(n-Y5|*u aleser: THANKS VERY MUCH
~ Fw/f6z^"x aleser: YESC;G$gL[4p CV
Joe Lau: that will be difficult for the LCL handle
w v @9|9u)];j Joe Lau: and sample order will be hard to us.you know;eaqi `(Of7D
Joe Lau: we have to source the material in few woN/BGF
Joe Lau: you can add each cbm
*nK"cR6E-_+{ W!Y Joe Lau: to calculate the orderfS6l:VE6l1aP'@4}D,I_
aleser: OK
U-A;a9lI(V Joe Lau: usd90/cbm6?)zt*rbb n |X
Joe Lau: that is the quotesD-Pr6\ pt'H7R.J
Joe Lau: our new site of classics is under construction.,k z^AsI
Joe Lau: [url]http://www.modernclassic.cn/[/url] not ready6V&i7@w\
Joe Lau: will be done.
9Vn uF_7HJd aleser: ifyou can sendme a xls file with the shpping costs
a/]Cjc)m5e/O] Joe Lau: Ok[2X%N0_(g
Joe Lau: that price of the cf007 will be informed after it is done,I will ask my production dept for price(k5hp'}E e(bj2S{ s
aleser: good
6N%~7l"gD*i aleser: i have received your quotation but the price for many items is calculate?
O8w'a]$Ric Joe Lau: yes
R+RdAue6{ko Joe Lau: including shipping
4m8fm#s4D Joe Lau: as C&F term
pm6`ReP%u aleser: no
9t$^-O-di aleser: excusemez(q+PAN!xUc)gV)UP
Joe Lau: yes?
^QJ/B~:d*`K aleser: in thisway can i buy 3 barcelona chair for 400usd to naples?p/D!mbA0N
Joe Lau: no)q%n2h#VGC+U
aleser: now
6?'R!ow#]*o!f Joe Lau: just 150
oZ+wa+V)sa aleser: 150 barcelona chair? e-T1~ IX{ K
Joe Lau: Oh I knowG3s)qf s.PaE
Joe Lau: USD150 L3H8x3XFz
Joe Lau: no good to quote including shipping
_"h}:v3N+}P"k P Joe Lau: better quote when you confirmed order quantity,add all cbm and calculate the shipping charge"t*Iw cR? Q
aleser: for 3 barcelona chair i pay 150usd for shipping costVf!q,L[6C9Q;Qwmb
Joe Lau: yes
7^['H,h)V Joe Lau: so the barcelona chair I calculate as,90X0.55 =50 then I add usd50 for one chair
:J(aN@T(g:I Joe Lau: so I prefer to quote in FOB term,while you can confirm the order quantity,I will calculate the shipping charge according to your item CBM.is it good?
6K/p;E4L7E,L fNy aleser: ok+dlR;X8W8C0]3w
Joe Lau: so you can keep the price as the FOB term
.`"p'k!d8c aleser: whats fob term!p.S(N l,q5cE"S8x(]5G
Joe Lau: two pricelist,one is for sample order,another is for containervN/Z9w6_'dh*m
aleser: is the price included cbm
OS?A0F Joe Lau: FOB means free on board
tC,U!c@Fqz+t!m Joe Lau: correct/{T-f C0X+z7g
Joe Lau: including CBM
3v H#YR+`4r Joe Lau: it is a trade term,means yoy buy them in price we send and pack them at our port.
8iE]'e/I4JFYcm ?/|,s aleser: noTl:[-i(N6_4H
Joe Lau: you pay all shipping charge at your side at your port
2l,Y/x4{4MNu5AF Joe Lau: I mean FOB
~-n!F Y,vL aleser: no
$]t5DL,}`+r){#A Q Joe Lau: that will be very expensive at your side,because you do not have competitive forwarder in China.\0RW^9h
Joe Lau: yes?
6[ D`+UL&Cf]d} aleser: right3U`+ARD6Au C0e
aleser: ok
c rxT5R aleser: for me 90usd/cbm is very good
ZJ`i*yv6Q Joe Lau: I am explaining the FOB term
]1[0Rl @-GA aleser: yes9y1E h%r*Hg I
Joe Lau: so we do business in C&F term,do you need insurance for the goods?;Re"S%FV3J [ mR
aleser: no
`F3It.Q-q?-pq(O Joe Lau: C&F means goods including shipping charge as usd90/cbm?_7o+N9l!kX5I0R
Joe Lau: so we usually say C&F or CIF Naples,or FOB Shenzhen
U;Z7J4ZMtl%S-\ Joe Lau: no insurance I give you free at my last quote
HIH @E1@F ] aleser: in your price list 400usd/barcelona chair include shipping to naples but you dont't have write minimun order in cbm(G Y fE8`&zW-Z\
Joe Lau: that means shipping including insuranceh!]1h_#t-u z
aleser: ok very good
'PSV%M `JTE Joe Lau: Aleser!
?9P/T+}*czNU aleser: excuse me s;np4PM"~-}#XZ
aleser: but i'm new in this sector2k9s3jW8u
Joe Lau: if you want to place an order,just tell me what  you can afford for the initial order. no MOQ V@;~w j q.dWt
Joe Lau: if you just order each item for a sample.d;@S;w6y2k.R*~
aleser: ok
[cIBz;]]"_ aleser: i thing to order you in a few day 5 barcelona
,R7B1s5T5?6|*UF@6[ Joe Lau: just barcelona chair?&oZn6yae
Joe Lau: set?
'nkvEQ/g\C aleser: yes set
9t-}D$UGgMH Joe Lau: 400X5=2000 l!\$i.nVxC Lk
aleser: all included to naples%xk0F)Vg
Joe Lau: fine
q$` F\3UnS Joe Lau: I can accept
v?f%xH aleser: all included to naples
m ^TRU"maM Joe Lau: but just for one color,OK,because it is hard to find other saddle leather straps in different color!Y S.NP:A7T
aleser: yes only black leather d@nh#A2e@
Joe Lau: how about others...
:N_EK(?!h aleser: only for understand 2000 usd all included to naples7icN?s"G
Joe Lau: yes usd2000 included shipping to NaplesW5gM xj[Nv0SWi
Joe Lau: I confirm HX@ {4M Z3^o.I5P
aleser: ok now is clear,hp;g a*hM\|BP
Joe Lau: Fine,payment can it be 100%t/t in advance?ui vt(INuN
aleser: only in advance?/x_)x/VP |
Joe Lau: very east to operate and save time*R Gh;nTr p
Joe Lau: yes...for sample orders.
K,Df!N Lz Joe Lau: that two pay time will cause bank transfer charge,if you can afford that we can accept 50% in advance
n$pxT3O2{L Joe Lau: and during progress I can confirm you everyday for the manufacturing
Q6]Pjw!}{%su Joe Lau: take pictures for them2} ~;V"G1tu"P3C
aleser: very good
.v0Qn-r.a q n aleser: i hope in a few day place an order6Gdagk6Kd
aleser: nowA2h)t:etR$Gc
Joe Lau: to ensure we are doing your goods4\kSN-?jL9c
Joe Lau: and you can attract your customer with those chairs
m9F"B E-a2Ev)e+a` aleser: when i call you with alibaba trade managera2r]eC,m7F'x2u
aleser: every day???D7@ gk-^H\)j
Joe Lau: you can sell them in usd1000 in you country,I think
lu!fH(@&M Joe Lau: hehe,,,just let you know the progress of your orderpW@#ux,u
aleser: 1000usd no2R?$Ch!Pt
aleser: but 800u!PQ[` Fo
Joe Lau: 800 is low in your country,but competitive in price,k'o'jivsoKO
aleser: how many days for delivery?1D @i*e,U:iR x
Joe Lau: that is good news because it will make big order in Italy%t8BB'{0{
Joe Lau: 15~20days;Pl `+_;Z/bGfg/FF
Joe Lau: you know the frame must be polished in 2days/barcelona chair
2[$^(dwiG Joe Lau: 45days in total
])|3oK3rqs ez aleser: ok
EZ.IV.U8X aleser: good
.`7Y+bIM0U$@T aleser: when i call you with alibaba trade manager6b0R#?x|:Ye"s
EO\ _^"A3@H9z
Joe Lau: for container you can receive in 60days6og,r ^L.N0]f
Joe Lau: yes,you can send me a mail also
f0_.H/@1s3jd.z aleser: howmany items in one container6a2jd7} Tg/^V
Joe Lau: 20'ft means 28cbm 40'ft means 58cbm,40'HQ mean68cbm8ke0F,M/V#xK
aleser: ok
~Cz3L!j S@o aleser: clear
gI)YABt i ^ ?+[ aleser: now i go to eat
$j9Ag7E7EMs\(}P&^ aleser: what time is itin china now+z` tR%m P
Joe Lau: yes ,when you have finished the sample order,you can place a container to earn more
'HK,HO4|u)nd Joe Lau: 20.44 at night,I am here with you without supper
j{WDK aX4S R aleser: excuse me
.{l4E!Q9o9n%~,A&n Joe Lau: no,I have to solve your problem,2K J)Qj"s
aleser: but is very important for me know you II8u7B!J:K
Joe Lau: and my pleasure to share my international knowledge to you,my friend
oS#c\|4Mn^ h Joe Lau: correct@1|4g&gbZ.]#z S.L
aleser: you are very friendly
w.M;|y!x#pXQ aleser: thanksc)_{ \"\|4c
aleser: in my city there are many chinese
&cqc{ ]/I aleser: and i like so much eat chinese food
y%D@\.ud9k Joe Lau: those will be useful if you have business with others,
T8abhT^o7a5z8V b;B Joe Lau: Oh!}%YfU|v ]3fY
Joe Lau: thats great
Rq:V/hLd{ aleser: no business"~7{J2R@8sw
aleser: you are the first"Wv b'C1T |+G5vlK
Joe Lau: sometimes can you teach me with italian
C K;cUu0^zQ Joe Lau: I just know,,ciao
J'i IZF+FFBv Joe Lau: ciao ciao means good byeDJ)S b#Q F}
aleser: good bye
^8?6EZ2fg U Joe Lau: excuse me
E$G5z'CL6fq,@o aleser: tell me
Ii]#M-H+Ma Joe Lau: may I know how old are you?E{-U5hb{7I1a'|
aleser: i'm 34 yoSyz,j3Z{3rd2Z
Joe Lau: oHtJ5jR`"`6o
Joe Lau: big bro.
4lk9Bf/M1m`;V m C aleser: you?U2@h]j
Joe Lau: I am just 25 yrs old1d6T/Vj%o a
aleser: yes big bro2{M$M9rZ
aleser: bye
/bO%{ l7c8A w5R3^c6R Joe Lau: ciao ciao
0|_F*w gN aleser: ciao
%YV&by!H^ aleser: ciao
N.k9B*pAz Joe Lau: one last thing.N9k0DJ E;Mr3@ }
Joe Lau: when you place an order.I will send you a pro forma invoice.that all trade terms and details will be shown on the invoice.that will give you learning of international trade.3wNjg(h4IR \ j@
aleser: good,when I receive your invoice,I will go after my bank  for the payment.you can send me in advance."m"[R(F?#K ~ h
8_3dr$l z t W
Any necessary you can also inquire me on the bbs.I am here with much pleasure.
9Gk l i$[
QI~ R!`C/Mkgt Yours respectfully
(bXw|w^5\
|*J a6Z'ao7@(]"nrb Joe Lau

2005-11-17 23:23 beyondself
one of my friend from UK who is familiar with sourcing from China. \$bH8ST#~D'd8m
He gave a lecture for  the subjuct in a famous university of UK. @8]E+_ G
I have invited him to visit this  topic.
X gLqg+q If Neil need further information, please let me know.

2005-11-17 23:54 vip
Thank above posts, but we need foucs on using Third-party logistics to help small companies expanding business in China. Main target is selling their products in China.

2005-11-18 01:58 sexdevil
Import?D&a.\'S A_q7B/h
Eygl2KSA
I do not know how to handle.

2005-11-18 03:47 rainie4420
[quote]Originally posted by [i]vip[/i] at 2005-11-17 11:541rRP V|u
Thank above posts, but we need foucs on using Third-party logistics to help small companies expanding business in China. Main target is selling their products in China. [/quote]
A8Z I.u2ve
l3KE uyc*@XeR It should be on the basic of mutual benifit. If so it should be absolutely a  good news for us. I'll do my utmost to write something attractive N
7{ q+I(H:RjdM helpful in one or two days.

2005-11-18 04:55 rainie4420
[size=3][b][align=center]The opening door of exporting to China[/align][/b][/size]IeKe7tnf
Following the Chinese economy is developing rapidly, China is being on the road to be the most attractive and potential international market nowadays.  Especially, as the quantum of export&import by China is increasing faster and faster, more and more foreign enterprises looking forward to entering into china martet, which is being full of competition and  potential danger, especially for those who smaller suppliers from all over the world, which are seeking for a key to open China market urgently. .ot F$fQ'D9H
+E1A0xD3}h`P3] g(f9{*{
So what the key looks like , more and more statistic data showing up the exactly key to open the China market, that is we called internet.Nowadays, as the information technology is growing rapidly, internet is being the most important and convenient tool for those importers from china. More and more importers feel like this fast but low-cost tool for seeking for the clients without any hesitate.%S$F+M&v(Q'rN*Y

B0TMD-JJ2M4O'rU Regarding to this, large number of B2B websites have been establisth herein in china, such as Alibaba , made  in china and ect. They are supplying a stage for the  importers and exporters, especially for those who smaller suppliers from all over the world.  Today, when you're in hope of seeking for an sepecific importer from China, please don't hesitate to open your computer now , large number of importers from China will be coming into your eyes. k/s*N0Bz@cI/?-^
2E2`] Y(N.J\
If you're looking forward to being  one of exporters to China, come on and open  your computer, the importers are waiting here for you.[/size][/size][/size][/font][/size]
TZ-D;s,~bH2Q X0? \,mQ']jA
[[i] Last edited by rainie4420 at 2005-11-17 18:11 [/i]]

2005-11-18 09:30 vip
This week, I talked with a CEO of US small company, he came to Shanghai, and seek business chance in China.
}(r.@;T{$}6| :`'`/j0Po y@
In his view, it's very simple to supply his product to China by third party logistics company.(~t-bc6s5]h+o(jRU

YRC3|ML He gave me two main points as below:
t&^/tgen
T^&Uj ro 1. Local manufacturer can not get low price on raw material, if need import from US, such 3M,etc.
gG}&s5hh1l 2. Because his product is small , and suitable for air transport, the freight through Fedex, DHL is not expensive, the CIF price is still good enough. For right now, DHL, Fedex, UPS, etc, can supply export & import service, very easy to handle.(u3sit-zF+z u
+T!Bi2k yaW6h
I think he is right, normally if he can find client here, he can supply it directly, sometimes he don't need trading company.
MB-{[n8n4\ e6v s2K;cC
I only mentioned him if the importer will re-sell his products to end customer in USD, and must need customs declare, the duty and VAT will become a big problem, his CIF will rise at least 30%.p] @ \ pElft
o ta5O~5J`@xh[aH
But the market is so big, everyone can select right clients, under this condition, 3PL is helpful for small oversea company in business with China.

2005-11-18 22:17 sexdevil
I learned that because our product are large in volume.so we cannot do business with express companies.lJ#]4K_)hTUn

0{2w"y U$B M I recommend BIG-MELON,he is doing with tiny metal domes.he have already done business with FEDEX,with freight collect.

2005-11-18 22:32 rainie4420
OK, I understand this time. Neil wanna us write an article about how the third party logistic can help foreign exporters in supplying their )?x(T W|xz
products to China much more convenient. So we have to stand at the point of view of those who third party logistic. Wow, interesting but
f%`_w8~tpf competitive!

Page: [1]


Powered by Discuz! Archiver 5.5.0  © 2001-2006 Comsenz Inc.