India business fate

For the businessmen of China , I think there could be no one unknow it , India . As the second big country, no , large state in the world , on our earth , the sway of this fuck one has been growing better and better , bigger and bigger . All busniessmen wanna come into and fish up some ?¡ãgolden fish?¡À in this ?¡ãyellow river?¡À , but who could win in the end ? who got the firt bucket of the silver ? No one , no one could get them easily , and even no one could release theirselves from the lair , this is same with the famous novel whose name is ?¡ãFortress Besieged?¡À of China movie , all wanna come in and all wanna go out with the same time , we must accept one truth that we really wanna do what we never and leave what we have done , please think about all things , the idea of this would be with you for all life for your this time of living .
Indian market is the same , it can not leave the fate and leave the rule in our seciety , which is human-being ??s culture ??s rule . For me , at the beginning of the doing the action all for india , I know that maybe the final or the first time for the try to do only one market with the accessary business , you know , which is the hardest for the dealing man being the accessary business , some times , it ??s infructuous to do some things which is necessary for the salesman in their working , especially , in China , to do the domestic business being so wellbehaved for all process , one touch , touching for all the interrelated men for talk , lockedup one man to assult for KTV buying of sex,drinking with the feast of fat things,and send even cash at the end of the negotiation . Same , this is the same with the foreign business , just for the AIDS , the man in foreign trade dealing in the foreign country without any action of the buying of sex , yet the drinking can not except , more and more drinking only for the dealing successful ??s so kidding .
India ASA is the gentle and soft , they speak fast and unclear for the english unknow man , all businessmen in China fear the communicate with the ASA of India , they even do not know whatever they said and they want , same with me , but there is better than others regarding the communicate with them , the boss of me appoint me as the director (false) for the foreign trade only for the english ability of me for speaking and writing , so I must pretend to do all what they think I can , so tired.
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Reply #1 xxxyyy's post

hi,xxxyyy, nice to meet you again.i learn you from the chinese FOB,and you del my artcil yesterday?did you remember it?
i agree you with the we really wanna do what we never and leave what we have done.

[quote]Originally posted by [i]nbpen[/i] at 2008-4-8 22:40 [url=http://forum.fobshanghai.com/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=3237967&ptid=321417][img]http://forum.fobshanghai.com/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
hi,xxxyyy, nice to meet you again.i learn you from the chinese FOB,and you del my artcil yesterday?did you remember it?
i agree you with the we really wanna do what we never and leave what we have done. [/quote]

Yes, of course , I remember you , so nice for your supporting.

[quote]Originally posted by [i]xxxyyy[/i] at 2008-4-9 07:48 [url=http://forum.fobshanghai.com/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=3237996&ptid=321417][img]http://forum.fobshanghai.com/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]


Yes, of course , I remember you , so nice for your supporting. [/quote]
you are welcome.
well this is a good section for me.our company have do business with Indian client for 3years.
and we have to learn more about them.and expand more larger market in there.
however ,Indian is one of the biggest challengers for our countries.
And i will introduct these section to my friends and my colleague,hope it will be getting better and better.
With best regards

Let??s go on the grumbling of the sad businessman , me . India , for the all China businessmen is the foreign country ,whatever it??s in shreds and tatters, you know there are lots of men who could go out from one city to other city is the lucky man in southwest of China , especially in some province , you know where I say . They always feel the business trip is the terribly sacred thing doing in their mind , before the setting out , they even wanna let all people round him , even the place is too small to buy a pen . And it is same with the India trip , lucky , I am so lucky , the business trip of me in India is with the boss of sale , so the peasant idea is being never with me all the trip . For the cheaper ticket of the air to there , we have to choose the night line of the India air . In the airport of Shanghai Pudong , the night is so drak and so cold , winter for the time of that , after the tea break of the noodle eatting , we took the seat on the ice-cold iron bench and fear to loose the bags of us , I choke back sleeping and pretend to think of some ideas I want , beauty , excellent view , the successful result and so on . The fuck Indian air always late coming , hear from the duty man of Pudong airport . Yes , he was right , we still waiting for this dead airplan for one hour and get on it with the sleeping eyes and the heavy feet of ourselves .
Oh , my God , my dear Zeus, I remember there must be lots of beauty in India for per year competition of the beauty , and even the winner always be Indian girl , so I really do not wanna recognize the truth of this time , the airhostess of this could be too old to bring the good scent to the passenger and they are really hard to be communicated by our Chinese english . The bad beginning had been opened .
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Excuse me ? I said to the airhostess , yes ? she replied me . May I go to the toilet. Yes you could . so , I go to the toilet , attention, when I go to the toilet , the plan is setting out . My god , it??s so dusty and too old for using , you know China is the developing country , but I think if China is the developing country , India will be the so backward state . Dusty and the old instruments is the first impression in my mind . With the strange scent and the ugly girl of airhostess , I and my boss get down on the dusty earth of contry ----India .
The crowded airport luggages picking area is with lots of people for the luggages picking , black , white , yellow and the persons with the unknow color stand , with the logy , near by the conveyor belt , checking the luggages whether is mine or not , quikly take off and fast move the bags one by one with the heavy strength . But we can not find the luggages of us even they being three , so hurried ,so impatient , we seek the different place for the luggages picking , but no duty man or woman could help us . Fortunately , we find them , our luggages , are lying on the floor in the corner , suddenly , the feeling of the happiness has been shoot into our mind , no accurately , it??s brain , which is same with the brain of pig ,a big and fool pig .
If you have ever been to India , you will know that , the taxi is impossible finding anywhere , you must go to the given place which name is car stand to call a dusty and expensive taxi with the unclear english speaking Indian driver .
But we did not come to India before , so we did not know how to get the rent car for the distant way from airport to hotel which we had booked , follow the team living the place of airport and do what they do , exchange the cash from USD to RS. , at this time , the money suddenly change into the paper , toilet paper , I even never feel regrettable when we pay the money in dozen .

[quote]Originally posted by [i]xxxyyy[/i] at 2008-4-10 07:33 [url=http://forum.fobshanghai.com/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=3238494&ptid=321417][img]http://forum.fobshanghai.com/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
Excuse me ? I said to the airhostess , yes ? she replied me . May I go to the toilet. Yes you could . so , I go to the toilet , attention, when I go to the toilet , the plan is setting out . My god , it??s so dusty and too old for using , you know China is the developing country , but I think if China is the developing country , India will be the so backward state . Dusty and the old instruments is the first impression in my mind . With the strange scent and the ugly girl of airhostess , I and my boss get down on the dusty earth of contry ----India .
The crowded airport luggages picking area is with lots of people for the luggages picking , black , white , yellow and the persons with the unknow color stand , with the logy , near by the conveyor belt , checking the luggages whether is ... [/quote]
support you.
however ,i don't have enough time to read your advice clearly.
then i will remember you,and advertise to others.

Thanks for your doing all ! sincerely !

You are welcome.
we all know that many Chinese Factories are like to do business with America and Europe.
And the RMB going up.why not we open the developing countries marketing.come on.
well xxxyyy,you know my English is so poor,if i make any mistake in it,would you pls point it out,tks :)

We need to get a rent car to take us to the hotel , and I have no idea regarding the car renting in here . I tell my boss . Follow the team , maybe , we could find some idea about the car rentting . Asexpected , the people all walk towards the exit and stop at a long line team for waiting . what are they waiting for , the boss ask me , maybe , I stretch the neck of me to see the brand of the small room which is in the front of the longline team , so fortunately , taxi shop , I am with relief , stand behind a white woman with the bad scent from her who stand by a lotsof bags , I always think about one things why the foreigner always take lots of luggages whenthey go abroad for travellig , but now, I think I have got some idea on it , everyone is poor for travelling , in my mind , the travelling is the luxurious , especially travelling in foreign country , even a poor state , which is far more poor than your country , so the people need to take all they need and do not buy some commodity for their life as much as possible . But we can not no like this , we are richmen , Haha , I am going with the rich boss , so I am not worry about the money spending . Choosing the taxi renting shop , we get a taxi for going . And I browse the view of this city hurriedly , the city---- New Dlhi , capital of India with the same population with China , so dusty with the sand wind , yellow and heavy , some times you even can not look through the sand interlayer between your eyes and the streetscape . I am fearing to lean my head out of the window of the car , I am afraid I can not get my head abck . After the talking with boss , we arrive at the hotel of the booking .

[quote]Originally posted by [i]xxxyyy[/i] at 2008-4-8 10:29 [url=http://forum.fobshanghai.com/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=3237447&ptid=321417][img]http://forum.fobshanghai.com/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
For the businessmen of China , I think there could be no one unknow it , India . As the second big country, no , large state in the world , on our earth , the sway of this fuck one has been growing better and better , bigger and bigger . All busniessmen wanna come into and fish up some ?¡ãgolden fish?¡À in this ?¡ãyellow river?¡À , but who could win in the end ? who got the firt bucket of the silver ? No one , no one could get them easily , and even no one could release theirselves from the lair , this is same with the famous novel whose name is ?¡ãFortress Besieged?¡À of China movie , all wanna come in and all wanna go out with the same time , we must accept one truth that we really wanna do what we never and leave what we have done , please think about all things , the idea of this would be wit ... [/quote]

I am with you,when I contacted with a potentional customer from India,I was afraid to call him for other people said that india english is hard to understand with heavy india tone.

So ,as we sent the sample to him and been waiting for a long time,he did not reply us at all.Then we tried to send fax,email again and again,Finally,he only asked us for another quotation with price list.But,after the quotation,he disappeared again.Sometimes,my manager pushed me to get the feedback,but I was unwilling to call him but the emails which needs lots of energy and patientce ,even a good mood.

Till now,he is still in the state of disaapearing......

I only thought he is a lazy bisman..:L

please do not worry about that upper , you know Indian businessman is doing the business with the phone method , you need to call them for the asking , enquiry and other you want . You know for the buyer or the man who is doing the purchasing work ,they will get lots of infor for the same business , so you just send the mail , they can not receive or browse at once , he or she will forget you, that means you will not know who you are when you send again . You could send the mail to him or her and give a call at once . Remember that it's different from business within Europe .

Remember that , I am going to India with the boss of me , so I choose the best hotel in New Dlhi for five stars level when I book hotel trough China service web . The gate is so small , you know , it??s not like the gate in China for hotel , a wide garden in front of the gate with the music fountain , the color of the surrounding by the building of the hotel is green everywhere , frash air with the good scent . No , it??s not this feeling , it??s the bad one , even I guess in India there are all hotel for this level must be with the atmosphere like this , which is yellow building with the sand on the surface , little bit green short plant with the dust on the leaf and the branch , narrow way to the door for the lobby , but the servic waiter is extremely hot for the welcome , so we get a gratified back from the hot servic from the tall and big waiter .
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Coming into the lobby and confirm the booking , we go upstair of the floor belong to us , choosing the no smoking room , we get a room with the window on the front wall , the small window siting on the floor with the shelf , in order to look view ouside through the small window which is given by God , the Indian God , so fortunately . After the noisy welcoming greeting , we could take a seat with a confortable break here finallly , look around the room we get , it is too small to call it as a five stars level hotel , it??s so poor for the living and the life here of all people , my boss say , yes , it??s really same ith the village of Chinese southwest , even you can not find the one which is similiar with NEW Dlhi in China , in 2008 . A small Tv set , a small table for writing , two beds for lying with the bedside , small bath room with narrow shower place , especially , the water here is salty. My God , we feel a little bit disappointed , you know the standard is not comparing with the Chinese same level , too bad to live in the five standard . Bearing , we have to make tea in bottle water with the heat instrument boiling water , Fortunately , we take the best Chinese tea from Hometown , just to solve the problem of drinking .
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[quote]Originally posted by [i]xxxyyy[/i] at 2008-4-12 08:16 [url=http://forum.fobshanghai.com/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=3239592&ptid=321417][img]http://forum.fobshanghai.com/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
please do not worry about that upper , you know Indian businessman is doing the business with the phone method , you need to call them for the asking , enquiry and other you want . You know for the buyer or the man who is doing the purchasing work ,they will get lots of infor for the same business , so you just send the mail , they can not receive or browse at once , he or she will forget you, that means you will not know who you are when you send again . [color=Blue]You could send the mail to him or her and give a call at once . Remember that it's different from business within Europe [/color]. [/quote]

Good tips! Thank you.

Thank you for your great experience on India. You tell the truth. Though i haven't been there, i think it is now a country under developing speed. I think China is really a nice place for any foreigners nowaday. So lucky as i'm Chinese. Anyway, hope it develops better day by day. I wish i have no need to visit there. It seems a little bit terrible after reading your story. Awaiting your update. By the way, why there's dusty everywhere there? Because of the weather?:o

long time no see friend
so busy these day.we all know that the Canton Fair is openning now.
we have to prepare for it.
well,one of my Indian client want to visit our factory during that time.
i told him that my colleague will meet him.
but now i email him ,he did not rely . what is wrong

Reply #17 nbpen's post

Why not call him directly?

Thanks the admin, and I am sorry for the none continuing parts showing recently, because of the busy work and the more attention in Chinese board. I will go on soon, thanks for all of you.

Take your time and take your thread going on
Looking forward to reading more

For long time cutting for showing, I will make this travel notes going on. The last time I said that the establishment of the hotel room is too simple to live as the five stars level hotel in China, but in India, this is not abnormal, I think all of them are same, maybe others are worse than this one. People always say the surface work should be better, that??s meaning the essential could take it at the second step, I feel this real idea in India.
Without the enough tooth paste and the tooth brush, I call the waiter again and the waiter really is the similar with the idea from the Fob forum- waiting the tip, I give him and he is so happy for the coming and I guess he??s wanting to come again next time. Recently, I hear that the coin of Indian RS. is decreasing, maybe the Indian??s ASA will be harder and harder for their life from the original hard living. For the 24 hours internet card buying, I go on the line of the Indian domestic internet, I have to acknowledge that the computer technology and the online technology of India should be much better than China. I remember that it??s hard enough for the going on the line of the internet when I live in the hotel in mainland, but here is better, no better, it is so fast online, even it??s wireless. TV show is boring for my boss, but he also could get the idea and happiness from the program of the DISCOVERY, and feel free with it, after the showing of TV, he could read the book with the sleeping and later I could hear the sound from his throat. There is no other choice for us with the dinner, meal. All of there are selling the Indian local food, which is the thin pan cake with the jam whatever cooked, or the nut with the honey with the temple scent, we can not accept this scent and the method of mealling, so we try our best to seek the Chinese food resturant and just the food we could bear, finally, the Chinese food offer place has been got by us from the corner of the street. There is with the India dusty table and the chair for the comer, and we find there is a couple at the corner of the room, a Chinese woman and a foreign white man. We take a table to have a seat and call the waiter for the menu and we find this is same with the situation in mainland, you could find the weatern food shop or place, and the place even is being with the establishment copying from the western state, but you could find the atmosphere of the western food taking and you could not get any test of the local food with the same cooked things, same with the Chinese food here, we can not get any idea of the local food test and the feeling of eatting, just eat for the belly filling. Stir-fry pork with the green capsicum and the expensive rice, so bad for meal.

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After the first bad Chinese food meal in NewDlhi, we begin to seek the place for the fast food for the last days of us in Inida, even have not the interest in trying the local food of Inida, which is doing by your hand, attention, it??s the dusty hand, dusty right hand for pinching the rich food with much sweat sugar. Giving up, the KFC and Mcdonald's are coming in to our mind, go ahead, we doing the find in the caunoght place, my god the circule place square is like a big temple, you could get the scent of the temple anywhere and the men and women always take the food to eat, like the people in China to eat the fried food for the street walking.

So dusty, so bad for living and entertainment, I guess if the people wanna become the richman and they also wanna make the nation of them to be strong and strong, they??d better do not in the way of the low price purchase, because of bing useless. You get the goods in the low price and sell them in the high level, that can not help you to improve the consuming level, but to make the active idea for the buying and the offering lower. Japan businessmen need the products in the competitive level, and the Europe businessmen need the goods in the high price, yes, maybe they do not know what is the low making, the Indian men knowing, but the rule is like this, the being is the suitable, the Indian could be not forgive in the future. Going on the harping the India of me. KFC is the most good saver of us in NEW DELHI, we never find the Mcdonald's there, I do not know the reason of it. And the Coke here could be with the water and I note that maybe the ice here could be dusty also. The boss of me is too old to drink cold I think, but he can not agree with me, he thinks he could let the cold things go through the tharm around, how funny.

Good dish from KFC, the famous resturant, we never get so good meal from the arrival at the NEW DELHI. One bucket of the chicken wings and the legs, two bowls of the rice, which is the stir fried rice with the Indian spice. You know, the spice of the India could be with the good scents from the stir fried rice, I think this must be the special and the local scents and the local nosh of India, good soup and the local Coke which is with the ice, the local drug ice with the dusty water from the place of the India. Good one meal. Ho, forget that, did you hear and the meet the person who go into the resturant to beg the food with the good dress ? Did you ? No, I did not before. But, I get this idea in India. That day, the man dressing in the very good beautiful sweater and the clean jeans sit beside us, when we nearly finish the meal of us, he open his mouth to let us know the idea him regarding the daughter of him being how hungry is and beg us to give him some little food, we kind, so kind, we forget the mind of the India fuck buyer with the low, we actually give him a ?¡ãbig?¡À chicken leg, and he disappear as fast as possible, I think if there is the possible to let him run faster, he could accelerate the speed of him indeed. So impudicity the Indian men. It could be happened twice at the same resturant.
And I wanna note that the tea of the India is same with the Chinese, it??s so different with the tea of the Europe tea, which is very sweet when you smell above the surface of the heap of the tea leaf, which I get from the meeting of the advertisement of the Britain businessman.

For the shopping, maybe if there are some readers of female could be interested ion the idea of me for the shopping in the capital of India. Actually, the famous place for shopping in NEW DELHI is named as counght place, which is the very big circle place, like a big temple for the pilgrimage and the big garden for the human flowers. Hot, dusty and the puzzle would be with your shopping, maybe I can not named the roaming of us as the shopping, just browse the goods and ask the price to compare with the price in mainland. Extremely expensive, you could not accept it to buy, sometimes I always think of the mainland of our country, with the very good surrounding of the shop and good condition of the business, even you could get the suitable good in the acceptable price. It??s very easy to lose your way in this circle big place, and this circle place is too big to finish your ideal work of roaming. When we wana go to the hotel of us, we find that it??s so difficult, and we ask the motor cycle driver for the way and lift the motor of him to hotel, unfortunately, it??s possible to find the driver who could take you to go the aim hotel of us, look, this is the Indian man, they even can not know the place of their home, this mustnot be happened in China for the driver. Anyway, we could be at the hotel door of us finally. Attention the famous place here is temple, yes, I have to acknowledge the old building of temple in the super big place is good, yes just good, no some special point for talking, and you must take off your shoes before your coming, and the marble is cold to let you imagine the deity, the nude deity, it different deity with the one in China temple.

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